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crazydiamondsue ([personal profile] crazydiamondsue) wrote2010-02-01 11:32 am

Is there a shelf life on obsession?

ASK ME ANYTHING


I will never be multi-fannish. I know this. I am a Cocker Spaniel of fandom loyalty. My Buffyverse investment wanes and ebbs, but it never subsides. It's currently cranked up to 11. I've been spending my snow days re-watching eps (currently season seven, two and five, in no particular order) and reading and re-reading fic (and leaving comments because I am AWESOME!) uploading fic to archives and reading old meta and scribbling a line or two of fic (yeah, I have no illusions about how that will turn out) and all-out wallowing in a love for the Buffyverse that will never die. It pops out of my subconscious in random quotes and geeky non sequiturs. Reading the fic makes me want to be a better writer; watching the show makes me want to be a better person. And to quote the prescient Miss Dionne Warwick, I know I'll never love this way again.

And I'm pretty much exhausting [livejournal.com profile] cityphonelines and [livejournal.com profile] lunabee34 with my shiny (old) obsession. So.

IP logging is always off (stalk me, all ye young and tender maidens) anonymous comments are always on: Ask me anything about the Buffyverse. About 'ships (canon and unconventional.) About plotlines controversial or contrived. About characters and my love or lack thereof. About the Buffy fandom that was, and what little I see of the Buffy fandom that is. Ask my opinion of a fic you wrote if you want honesty (I'll squee if I squee, I'll email if I concrit.) Ask me about a fic I wrote, or one I didn't write, or one I should have. Ask me about Buffy's coats or Xander's shoes, Cordy's hair or Giles' eyes. Ask me why I love Xander, or why I love, hell, Vi. I don't care.

Ask me anything, just let me talk about my Buffy-love because Caza's heard it all for 10 years and Jonah's 18-month-old contribution is to yell, "Kitty-cat!" whenever Angel vamps out and growls. (I shit you not -- it's a thing of beauty and joy forever.)

ASK ME ANYTHING -- as long as you're humming Nerf Herder under your breath.

[identity profile] crazydiamondsue.livejournal.com 2010-02-02 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
I am so glad that you are inexhaustible! I am so grateful, in fact, that I cannot express it in words. Perhaps Alfred, Lord Tennyson could, but I cannot.

Super-not-so-secret-Sue-confession:

I HATE CROSSOVERS

Excepting, of course, BtVS/AtS crossovers, since it's the same universe. I was just thinking about that last night, because I was looking at fic on Ao3 and noticing that a lot of the fic that had the most hits was crossover fic. I can sum up my feelings about crossovers with this quote from Xander in Restless: "Oh, who cares?!" (It's better if you re-watch it to get his inflection.)

Here's my oft used analogy for my feelings on crossovers (and you'll get a particular kick out of it.) In my opinion, fan fiction crossovers are like playing Barbies with Strawberry Shortcake dolls and Star Wars action figures. They're not scale! Barbie and Skipper sitting down Strawberry Shortcake and talking about boys looks weird! Why does Barbie's redheaded friend have such a big head comparatively? And why is Boba Fett driving the pink convertible???

The rules of their universes are different! Why would Buffy be checking out a Stargate? Did she learn nothing from the Initiative? Why would Xander bang Harry Potter? Hogwarts grads can only do magic with wands! (Uh, that got dirtier than I meant.) I don't find Buffy and Angel somehow running into Mal Reynolds and telling him that he looks like an evil preacher they used to know particularly clever. WHY are Buffy and Angel in the 'verse? I DON'T GET IT.

But the main reason that I don't care for crossovers, of course, is that I only have one fandom. I know that many, many people are far more multi-fannish than I and that they equally love Buffy and say, Supernatural or Stargate or Dr. Who. I get that they want to see their favorite characters together. Or they think that Faith/Dean Winchester sounds hot (and I can actually sort of see that.)

But unlike SPN with its 3 characters, the Buffyverse has dozens! There are so many possible 'ships and interactions and character studies and did I mention porn -- without bringing another universe into it. It really makes me antsy to read, honestly. Like an itch I can't reach. Why is Sam Winchester researching with Xander Harris? Xander looks too bright and shiny and healthy and funny in the grey tones of SPN.

But the heart wants what the heart wants, and the fact that I think Rodney McKay/Buffy Summers is gooftastic is not going to stop someone else from thinking, "Ah, yeaaaah. There's the puddin'."

Now, having said all of that, Andrea once wrote a Spike/Xander snippet with Spike taking Xander to see Dr. Gregory House, MD and House being fascinated that Spike was a vampire. The characterizations were all great, and I would have loved to have read reams of it. And Lucia wrote a Sam/Buffy that I like, way back in early SPN-dom. But my all time favorite crossover (of the 3 or so I've read) is this:

Thin Ice, Buffy Summers & Justin Taylor (the parallels between Angel and Brian Kinney amaze.)

But yeah -- like Barbie and Boba Fett.
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[identity profile] lunabee34.livejournal.com 2010-02-02 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
OMG, what Tennyson did was piss me right the fuck off and make me drink more wine. I mean, please. I'll give him "Ulysses," but damn, man. Truncate thyself.

I had no idea you felt thusly about crossovers. I don't know if we can get married anymore. Fool around, totally, but matrimony is out of the cards. *g*

I love crossovers. Love them. Love them. LOL It's such a wonderfully intricate puzzle, the best exercise in plotting and characterization ever. I get a real intellectual kick out of making these two different worlds fit together. Now when it's done badly, I think crossover is the worst of bad fic because you're screwing up *two* source texts. But overall, huge ass fan. I mean that. I have a huge ass.

[identity profile] crazydiamondsue.livejournal.com 2010-02-02 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
Well, there went my plan for our group wedding, ala that Giles fic that I rec'd (didja read it yet? Didja? *g*) I can completely see that they are a fantastic exercise in both plot and characterization. I prefer the laying on the couch form of writing fanfic, myself. Buh-dump-bump-ching!

You do not have a big ass. I have seen your ass (well, your 2006 ass) and it was fine. My ass is bigger than my 2006 ass, but I've had a baby since then. A baby who made my ass big. Dare I say -- a big ass baby.
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[identity profile] lunabee34.livejournal.com 2010-02-02 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
Well, since 2006 an entire side of beef and a family of pork skins have moved into my ass... Wait. Yeah, okay. I totally mean that.

I so read that story. That story of nudity and gropage and group marriage. Indulgence to the yum factor.

[identity profile] dlgood.livejournal.com 2010-02-02 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
I actually kind of like crossovers, but mostly if they cross over into a show that has no supernatural elements - we can kind of pretend the BTVS world is our own, as long as their isn't yet another set of rules to try to make it square with. I know it's gimmicry, but a big part of me is very cheesy and I see all kinds of funniness (in my head) in crossing BTVS with something like... Sanford & Son or Threes Company...

[identity profile] crazydiamondsue.livejournal.com 2010-02-02 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
but mostly if they cross over into a show that has no supernatural elements I can see that a little better. Now I'm intrigued at a BtVS/Three's Company crossover...but I can't for the life of me imagine how that would happen...

[identity profile] dlgood.livejournal.com 2010-02-03 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I don't know how it would work either, since Three's Company was pretty much set on a sunny beach but one assumes it involves Larry Dallas hitting on a vampire and Jack Tripper's clumsy attempts to keep things secret from Mr. Roper - while Mrs. Roper does the actual killing. I'm really just riffing here...

Mostly, it's that I grew up watching sitcoms in the 80s and they'll always be with me. It's too bad I'm so lazy that I can't get beyond plot bunnies, or I'd have actually written the "Four Cheers Patrons that never fathered Faith, and one that did" fic that percolated in my head...
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[identity profile] lunabee34.livejournal.com 2010-02-03 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
OMG, could you imagine Faith as the daughter Sam never realized he had. *flaily hands*

[identity profile] crazydiamondsue.livejournal.com 2010-02-03 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
I want that Cheers fic. I truly do.

while Mrs. Roper does the actual killing Eeee! And remember, Janet was a florist, which we know from the Buffyverse equals serial killer...

[identity profile] dlgood.livejournal.com 2010-02-03 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
I'm actually kind of surprised no one ever wrote that. Though, with her luck, her dad's more likely to be Antony Tortelli.
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[identity profile] lunabee34.livejournal.com 2010-02-03 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
Too true.